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Reverend Dr · Nov 09, 2010, 08:20 PM // 20:20

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Originally Posted by My New Name

or you can cut the LF r8+ BS and there will be A LOT of people playing?

Have you even read this thread or this is a troll?

DON'T TRY TO PUG. Even if you got into those R8-9+ groups, you would see that those groups are terrible and not worth joining even if they actively sought you out.

I don't know how many times this can be said and yet immediately afterwards someone complains that they can't get into pugs. Really the r8-9+ crowd are doing new players a favor by not letting them in, it is letting the new players avoid the worst of the players in GW. Why do you think these r8-9+ are pugging? No one wants them in their group. Neither should you.

Missing HB · Nov 10, 2010, 11:54 AM // 11:54

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Have you even read this thread or this is a troll?

DON'T TRY TO PUG. Even if you got into those R8-9+ groups, you would see that those groups are terrible and not worth joining even if they actively sought you out.

I don't know how many times this can be said and yet immediately afterwards someone complains that they can't get into pugs. Really the r8-9+ crowd are doing new players a favor by not letting them in, it is letting the new players avoid the worst of the players in GW. Why do you think these r8-9+ are pugging? No one wants them in their group. Neither should you.

Your turn now : have you even read my reasons why i made this thread ?

I agree with your ideas yes , but fact is i said that there is just NOONE to play with during half the day in Heroes Ascent . That said , you got no other choice than taking anyone in order to fight the only other 1-2 teams in.. You got your guildteam ( [Dong] ) always , but thats not the case for everyone at some hours...

Reverend Dr · Nov 10, 2010, 04:31 PM // 16:31

Yes I have, but in the minds of the people that keep showing up here the single and only problem that HA has ever had is that those mean groups won't let me in.

6v6 was the worst thing to ever happen to HA.

Everyone knows the DC/reconnect system is terrible. They aren't going to be changing that.

HA doesn't need more rewards. Any PvP format itself should be where the enjoyment is derived.

They did promise us a new HoH map, but that was over a year ago.

Sankt Hallvard · Nov 10, 2010, 05:04 PM // 17:04

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

HA doesn't need more rewards. Any PvP format itself should be where the enjoyment is derived.

Agreed. But then you can see enjoyment as a form of reward. The feeder from low end pvp to high end has been pretty much severed. If you try to start HA now you will get such a horrible experience and feel like a loser. Participation needs to be rewarded in some way, more than just improving your personal playmanship. The low-ranked losers in HA are not the true losers, the ones who "go back to pve" and miss out on the pvp experience are the real losers.

Reward participation.

Reverend Dr · Nov 11, 2010, 07:34 PM // 19:34

The problem becomes either the participation reward is meaningless and might as well not be there, or the participation reward is so high people show up only to participate. There is very little middle ground.

Missing HB · Nov 12, 2010, 09:26 AM // 09:26

I don't think so for HA. People aren't idiot , if they see theres noone in or if there is r12 bala holding they wont bother forming team ( on dead hours of course ) . It's clearly not worth waiting hours to ,at best ,have 1 uw win ( whatever your goals are ...)

Like now , although its zquest , noone dares to form any team , for obvious reason...

Reverend Dr · Nov 13, 2010, 03:40 AM // 03:40

HA needs more people.

Rewards aren't really going to bring in anyone. More likely it is going to bring people that don't already HA to complain about the rewards being too high.

Sirius Bsns · Nov 13, 2010, 03:57 AM // 03:57

HA needs more GW2, that way the remaining GW1 Veterans sector of the community can shed all the accumulated anguish after having been playing this stagnant game called GW1 for over five flippin' years now. The HA Crisis [or PvP Crisis for that matter] cannot be stopped. It can perhaps be slowed down, but the damage is already done, and it is apparent that Anet will do little to nothing to help at this point. This point has been made clear indirectly through their progressively fewer and fewer updates.

cantalus · Nov 13, 2010, 12:23 PM // 12:23

seriously, u think that gw2 is going to be bought mindlessly by HAers considering the amount of disinterest anet have shown towards it

only people who are positive about HA are pve mentality bbway fame grinders

Sirius Bsns · Nov 13, 2010, 12:46 PM // 12:46

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Originally Posted by cantalus

seriously, u think that gw2 is going to be bought mindlessly by HAers considering the amount of disinterest anet have shown towards it

only people who are positive about HA are pve mentality bbway fame grinders

Yes. 12345678

Matrix Arcade · Nov 13, 2010, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Is it really that bad in HA these days? I quit playing HA after I got my r11 about 3 months ago and at Euro evening times there were plenty of people on..

Gift3d · Nov 13, 2010, 01:12 PM // 13:12

Guru as a whole is terrible at problem solving.

OP, you're right, but your solutions to the problem will only make it more of a shitfest. DC option will allow people to run all hench teams, there used to be an exploit like that where you could get a monk henchmen 100% of the time and i abused the hell out of it and made a lot of fame. 6v6 isn't worth speculating on because it won't happen. And more HA quests? That does nothing but make pve shitters flock to HA and run the most gimmicky garbage possible.

Also, making the "uneven teams unfair HA matchmaking herp derp" stuff are all empty words, because none of it will ever happen. Zero percent chance. Even if it did make sense, it still wouldn't happen.

The one and only thing that could fix HA is a skill balance. Judging by the last few PvP balances, i trust that whoever is balancing skills now has no clue what they're doing. We've watched them buff talentless gimmick builds by nerfing all counters to it, and then let all the button mashing pvers run rampant and clueless because build wars.

Nothing else can fix it and return it to a wholesome pvp format. And this, like many other suggestions, will never happen.

GW is in a post-mortem state. Hold your breath and have fun watching it rot.

jazilla · Nov 13, 2010, 05:35 PM // 17:35

I love how people blame ANet for the HA problems when in actuality it is the player base in HA that is the problem. Negative attitudes/elitism(which in and of itself is hilarious) and gimmick builds that the PLAYERS came up with, not ANet have all combined their Captain Planet powers to make HA the laughingstock of GW. Do the players in HA even know that they are the laughingstock of GW or have they been in the HA lobby too long to notice?

Missing HB · Nov 13, 2010, 06:18 PM // 18:18

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Originally Posted by jazilla

I love how people blame ANet for the HA problems when in actuality it is the player base in HA that is the problem. Negative attitudes/elitism(which in and of itself is hilarious) and gimmick builds that the PLAYERS came up with, not ANet have all combined their Captain Planet powers to make HA the laughingstock of GW. Do the players in HA even know that they are the laughingstock of GW or have they been in the HA lobby too long to notice?

I agree with you that players mentality in HA is terrible , but honestly , you cant deny that there wasn't any single update in HA aswell for over a year and half now ....Just looking at last one which is clearly " nerfing hexes " more likely coz of gvg mat and not coz of HA, you get here a perfect example ....

cantalus · Nov 13, 2010, 07:17 PM // 19:17

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Originally Posted by jazilla

I love how people blame ANet for the HA problems when in actuality it is the player base in HA that is the problem. Negative attitudes/elitism(which in and of itself is hilarious) and gimmick builds that the PLAYERS came up with, not ANet have all combined their Captain Planet powers to make HA the laughingstock of GW. Do the players in HA even know that they are the laughingstock of GW or have they been in the HA lobby too long to notice?

but you don't HA, since i'm sure you would've mentioned it when you said

"I have a problem with this system when it allows a player to "buy" their PvP rewards for GW2. I have R3 Gladiator and the Rank 3 Gamer title. I am also R6 Zaishen. My Gladiator Title counts as me getting 2 points for the HoM reward but so does my Zaishen Title. The funny part: I earned Rank 3 Zaishen by 600/Smiting The Sepulchre of Dragrimmar and charging people 10k per run. I didn't earn my other zkeys through PvP methods until I started seriously doing RA a few months ago"

i suspect you've been a victim of this "elitism" however unlike everyone with rank in HA you didn't perservere, and frankly i couldn't care less what anyone who doesn't HA thinks about this laughable but depressing update

Sirius Bsns · Nov 13, 2010, 09:13 PM // 21:13

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Originally Posted by Gift3d

Guru as a whole is terrible at problem solving.

OP, you're right, but your solutions to the problem will only make it more of a shitfest. DC option will allow people to run all hench teams, there used to be an exploit like that where you could get a monk henchmen 100% of the time and i abused the hell out of it and made a lot of fame. 6v6 isn't worth speculating on because it won't happen. And more HA quests? That does nothing but make pve shitters flock to HA and run the most gimmicky garbage possible.

Also, making the "uneven teams unfair HA matchmaking herp derp" stuff are all empty words, because none of it will ever happen. Zero percent chance. Even if it did make sense, it still wouldn't happen.

The one and only thing that could fix HA is a skill balance. Judging by the last few PvP balances, i trust that whoever is balancing skills now has no clue what they're doing. We've watched them buff talentless gimmick builds by nerfing all counters to it, and then let all the button mashing pvers run rampant and clueless because build wars.

Nothing else can fix it and return it to a wholesome pvp format. And this, like many other suggestions, will never happen.

GW is in a post-mortem state. Hold your breath and have fun watching it rot.

You overgeneralized on that first line. There'd been many amazing suggestions on guru, but so many of them fell on deaf ears these days. Also, there's no solution to the PvP Crisis. As I've stated before, the damage is done, and there's just no way of stopping it from dying. You can only slow it down if lucky, but we all see how lucky we are these days; players look for r9++ even in a dead game! So all I can say is, "Good luck with that". I can't wait for the next stream of new games because we're all evidently up to our knees in poop with this game! Diablo 3 and GW2... *drools*... and in the meantime..? League of Legends!

Reverend Dr · Nov 15, 2010, 03:38 AM // 03:38

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Originally Posted by Sirius Bsns

There'd been many amazing suggestions on guru, but so many of them fell on deaf ears these days.

Yes, but the best suggestions are never in the OP and usually only in the middle of pages and pages of the usual shitfests. If we're lucky they are quoted once or twice, but that's it.

Missing HB · Nov 15, 2010, 08:03 AM // 08:03

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Yes, but the best suggestions are never in the OP and usually only in the middle of pages and pages of the usual shitfests. If we're lucky they are quoted once or twice, but that's it.

Anyway , wherever the best suggestion is , it's usually not read and the idea is forgotten after a week or so .... However, for once i tried to HA playing bit later than i usually do and , there are just too many people then lol. I mean , place isn't really " hour balanced " ... Either noone during 3/4 of the day , either 3 full districts during 2 hours...

YoNkErS 2k5 · Nov 15, 2010, 12:10 PM // 12:10

The game has been dead for years. Crying about it won't do anything. And I've honestly read some of the dumbest posts I've ever read in my life on this page. From saying reverting back to 6v6 is stupid, (LoL), to blaming players for the game's collapse.

But, what do you expect. You play CoD and think you've seen the dumbest nerds. Then you come back to this game and see A/N's in RA with Animate Flesh Golem and Sin skill chains. That's why half the teams now take the henchman, because they use their skills better than 95% of the "people" that play this game. But what do you expect from a game who's developers median IQ is 3, and the player base median IQ is like 60?

YoNkErS 2k5 · Nov 15, 2010, 12:17 PM // 12:17

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Yes I have, but in the minds of the people that keep showing up here the single and only problem that HA has ever had is that those mean groups won't let me in.

6v6 was the worst thing to ever happen to HA.

Everyone knows the DC/reconnect system is terrible. They aren't going to be changing that.

HA doesn't need more rewards. Any PvP format itself should be where the enjoyment is derived.

They did promise us a new HoH map, but that was over a year ago.

6v6 was the worst thing to happen to HA. Lol...

6v6 not only reduced the time needed to form teams by reducing the required amount of players, it condensed builds, making it harder to play balance, and rearrange required skills accordingly. It also serves to cut lag in half by reducing the bandwith occupied by less players in each map.

1v1v1 halls, instead of 24 people you have 18. Taking 6 players out of a match seriously improves game speed.

That is the most moronic statement I've ever heard, next to the r0 PvE'rs crying they can't find a team.

If it helps you to know, r12+ = horrible. I would rather play with kids half my rank than play a game with anyone beyond r12, because at least the kids with half my rank have a brain.